Episode 16: Breaking Health Myths: Gut, Hormones, and Daily Wellness with Dr. Lahana Vigliano
In this latest episode, Ash speaks with Dr. Lahana Vigliano, a doctor of clinical nutrition and founder of Nuvitru Wellness. They explore the principles of functional nutrition, the importance of understanding root causes of health issues, and the interconnectedness of gut health and hormones. Lahana shares her personal journey into functional medicine, misconceptions surrounding gut health, and practical steps for improving overall wellness.
The conversation emphasises the significance of holistic approaches to health, including the impact of trauma and stress on the body. In this conversation, Dr. Lahana and Ash explore the multifaceted aspects of holistic wellness, focusing on women's health, the impact of alcohol, the under-eating epidemic, and the importance of self-care and fun. They discuss practical strategies for time management, emerging trends in nutrition, and daily wellness practices that can enhance overall well-being. Dr. Lahana emphasises the significance of prioritising health and making informed choices based on individual needs, while also highlighting the role of self-care in teaching future generations about wellness.
The episode highlights are:
00:00 Introduction to Functional Nutrition and Wellness
06:47 Understanding Functional Nutrition vs. Conventional Medicine
12:58 The Importance of Gut Health
20:03 Common Health Concerns in Functional Medicine
25:51 Practical Steps for Improving Gut Health and Hormones
31:58 The Under-Eating Epidemic
41:12 Emerging Trends in Nutrition and Wellness
47:27 Daily Wellness Practices for a Balanced Life
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Transcript
Ash Butterss (00:01.084)
How do I pronounce is it new V true wellness? New V true. Okay. I just wanted to make sure I got that. Awesome. Okay. So let's kick things off.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (00:04.352)
Yep, perfect.
Ash Butterss (00:16.785)
Hello everyone and welcome back to another episode of the Unedited Woman. Today in the studio we have Lahana Vigliano. Lahana is a doctor of clinical nutrition and the founder of New Vitru Wellness. She specializes in functional medicine, focusing on holistic approaches to nutrition and wellness, including gut health and hormone balance.
Lahana aims to empower individuals to improve their health through personalized evidence-based strategies, advocating for natural healing and overall wellbeing. She is also a business owner, podcast host, and mother, blending her passion for nutrition with her life experiences to support others in achieving their best health. Lahana, welcome to The Unedited Woman. It is so nice to meet you.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (01:08.788)
Yes, you too. Thank you for having me. I'm so excited to be here and excited to talk about all the things that we plan to talk about.
Ash Butterss (01:16.285)
I know, right? So I came across your page on social media and it was just like, you spoke straight to me and I love everything that you're about. And I think the topics that we're going to dive into today are going to be so helpful for the people that are tuning in. You the mission of this podcast is really to have candid conversations across a broad range of topics to really help women enhance their daily lives. And I think that functional medicine is one of those umbrella topics that can be so broad. And I think still,
quite misunderstood in many ways. So I am so, so excited to get your knowledge and your insights on all of that good stuff today. So let's kick it off with a bit of a personal question. I feel like most people that move into these kinds of spaces where they're wanting to help other people, it generally is driven by a personal journey. So I'd love to know what was your own personal health journey that led you to taking this wellness approach to your life?
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (02:10.911)
Yeah, actually, I don't have a personal health journey. I always feel like, wait, what is what? Not that I'm complaining, but I'm like, what is wrong? No, I'm just kidding. But usually most people do have a personal health journey. And for me, it was more of a educational journey that led me to where I'm at. So I was like the weird five-year-old kid that knew exactly what they wanted to do.
Ash Butterss (02:26.876)
Mmm.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (02:34.225)
So I always knew I wanted to be a doctor. Now, granted, I thought that was going to be an M.D., but I went with that until obviously college. And then backing up a few years, I actually had my son when I was 17, 18. So I became a young mom. And so I feel like that in general starts kind of shifting our desires, our wants, our I don't know, it just shifts, it shifts everything. And when I was in school, I was still pre-med. And I started realizing that
Ash Butterss (02:48.924)
Wow.
Ash Butterss (02:56.998)
Totally.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (03:04.237)
It was pretty much just a pill for an L. So you find the diagnosis, you obviously learn about the body, which was my favorite thing ever. I loved anatomy and physiology in high school. I loved all things to learn about the body. But the way that treatment is, again, there's a time and a place for it. Emergency med, I'm so thankful for. If you get in a car accident, please don't come to me. Definitely go to the ER, right? But I felt like there was, that was it. You have diabetes, you have smurf formin.
Like, why? Like, why are we not understanding, well, why is this person having diabetes in the first place? And there's not a lot of answers there. It's truly just pharmaceuticals. And so that's when I kind of started re-thinking of like, OK, I'm a mom. I don't want my kids to be a statistic because chronic breast cancer, cancers in general right now are like one in two in women. And it's just like, I don't want my kids to do that. So what can I do to help my kids? And then I'm like, and I don't want to be given like what? It was like a whole.
Ash Butterss (03:37.916)
Mm.
Ash Butterss (03:54.47)
Yeah.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (04:01.58)
I don't know, it was a whole thing because again, I was five and I always knew what I wanted to do. So it was definitely very surprising that I wanted to start pivoting. And I took a class on nutrition. And to be completely honest with you, I wasn't completely sold. But I started seeing like, OK, I can see where this is a big part of having optimal health. And so then I changed my major and I took my doctor all the way through clinical nutrition. But that's kind of what led me here, to be honest.
Ash Butterss (04:28.399)
Wow. And in that process, did you look at your own habits and kind of go, wow, there's some work to do here? Yeah. What were some of the things that kind of like, yeah.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (04:35.456)
Yeah. my gosh. If I'm so, I'm so ashamed. I'm just kidding. I'm not. It's everyone's, it's everyone's like, has this season of their life.
Ash Butterss (04:42.186)
It's a safe space here. Yes, of course. trust me, I've been there.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (04:46.091)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I laugh. I laugh at it just because I was a young mom. And so I did not know what I was doing. I didn't know what I was doing in the kitchen. So I would make instant mashed potatoes and canned green beans and awful quality food. I grew up on a standard American diet. at the time, didn't know. I really didn't know anything different because that's how I grew up. But again, kind of looking at the statistics.
Yeah, I slowly started changing the way we ate. And then I started changing the products that we use in our home. And it's honestly a rabbit hole, which I'm sure if anyone's been down this rabbit hole, you know the rabbit hole that is to come. But yeah, there is so much, so much that it's like night and day, honestly. And it's been a journey, right? It wasn't overnight. But I'm glad I got to where I'm at now, I guess.
Ash Butterss (05:24.092)
you
Ash Butterss (05:39.781)
Yeah, I agree with the whole idea of it being a rabbit hole. It's almost like once you peek behind the curtain and then you can't see like you can't unsee what you then know. And it's like, you know, if you do start to do things that maybe aren't so good for you, they're almost even not as enjoyable because you know that it's not the right thing that you should be doing for your body. It's like knowledge is the best thing in the world. But yes.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (05:58.303)
Yeah. Yeah. And it's also when you start taking care of your body. Yes. But it's also when you start taking care of your body, you also just don't want it. Or like I used to love like Reese's, for an example. And then when you start eating like real chocolate, like Justin's comes closer, Unreal is another good brand. But when you eat like real chocolate with like real peanut butter and then you eat a Reese's, like it definitely does not hit like it used to. It feels.
Ash Butterss (06:11.132)
Mmm.
Ash Butterss (06:25.637)
Yes. Yes. I totally know what you mean by that. Okay. So this is, it's a huge broad topic. Why don't we dive in a little deeper with you sharing for the audience, maybe some of the key principles behind functional nutrition and how that differs from your more conventional approaches.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (06:26.731)
Chemical.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (06:47.455)
Yes. So I think the biggest thing that stands out with functional wellness, whether it's functional nutrition, functional medicine, is that it's trying to aim for the root cause. So like I said, instead of just saying here's metformin for diabetes, it's, well, why is diabetes occurring in the first place? And it's not even just diet, right? We're looking at stress. We're looking at sleep. We're looking at environment. We're looking at movement. All of those things matter.
So we're looking at things from a bird eye perspective and in different areas of our life. And we're trying to understand the root cause because when we get to the root cause work, we're able to reverse things. And that's really where a lot of people want to get when they're trying to seek out functional care. Now, I will be the first to admit that it was a pill for an ill in conventional, like just that example I gave. But there is a pill for an ill in functional too.
And I obviously, practice, we try to avoid that. But I have found that even some functional medicine doctors, because I think they're so trained conventionally, I would imagine it's kind of hard to get out of that line of thinking. I'm not saying that there isn't a time and a place for this, but now it's a natural pill for now. So a lot of our patients come to us and they're like, they just gave me, I saw a naturopath and they just gave me so many supplements. And I'm like, yeah.
Ash Butterss (08:05.231)
Mmm.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (08:13.254)
That's pretty much what they do. So instead of, again, it's a natural pilferin, so it's like, you have inflammation, here's turmeric, here's boswellia, here's all these things. But it's like, well, why are you having inflammation? And sometimes there's a little bit of root cause work, but a lot of the time it's just like, here's some supplements and get on your way. So I would say we're trying to definitely be different in that way and make sure that we are aiming for the root cause, because that is the number one principle of conventional versus functional is understanding what that is.
Ash Butterss (08:40.733)
I actually feel like I've gone through that journey myself. I've, you know, we'll talk about it probably a little bit more, a little bit later, but I've gone to naturopaths before and I've had my blood tested and all this kind of stuff just to kind of dive into maybe what the cause of bloating was. And I've had celiac tests and every test under the sun. And I think I've, you know, I've gone through that process of spending thousand dollars on herbs and supplements and it's just not done anything. And then I've always come back to the starting line, I guess. So,
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (09:05.499)
Yeah. Yeah.
Ash Butterss (09:09.871)
I'd love to know when a client comes to see you, what are the questions and the ways that you start to really ascertain what the root cause is? Like what are the, is it sleep? Is it diet? I mean, I'm sure it's all of those things, but do you go through a specific process?
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (09:24.285)
Yeah. Yeah.
Yes, and I would say definitely the first session is like your red flag. And honestly, we have a lot of our patients that bring like their care plans. And some of them have seen some of the best functional medicine doctors that they've seen, like that really big ones out there in this world. And I look at their care plans and I'm not impressed, y'all. Like, and that's saying something like I'm like, this is actually pretty poor, to be completely honest with you. No, great. I have really high standards that it even like it sucks even for me. So when I have to go see a doctor, I'm just like, it's.
It's fine. It's fine. I'm just going to do my own thing anyway. But whatever, we're here. But the first session can, to me, can tell you if it's going to be a red flag or not. And so what we do is we go all the way and go all the way back to when you're in your mother's womb. And I feel like if your practitioner is not asking what your childhood was like and honestly going back to your mother's womb, then to me that's a red flag. So we go back to mother's womb. We hit elementary, middle, high school, college, and obviously here.
And yes, it's the health things. it's like I had antibiotics as a kid a lot. had ear infections and or I had stomach bugs all the time or I had mono in high school. But it's also like my parents got divorced when I was five or I was sexually abused in middle school or high school or I had an abusive boyfriend in college. And we want to understand that side of things, too. And not that we're therapists, but it does. It's we do put you on this timeline, like actually a physical timeline on paper.
And you will start to see like this happened, this started happening. Her body spoke to her in this way, started having headaches. And then all of a sudden she started having bloating five years later. Then this also happened. And we can start seeing like that big picture and knowing like where to start. Because I will say everyone's health journey, I think of it like a bucket. And there's all these things contributing to the bucket. And when they don't feel good, the bucket is overflowing.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (11:18.237)
But it's diet, it's sleep, it's stress, it's movement, it's past trauma. There's all these things. we are just trying to, again, we don't do it all at once because it's overwhelming a lot. But we do one at a time. And our goal is to help reduce the amount of liquid is in the bucket so you're not overflowing. And of course, sometimes that takes more than our team to. I mean, we have a personal trainer on our team. And obviously, we are all trained and functional. But sometimes it can take a therapist, which I'm actually
Ash Butterss (11:29.917)
Mmm.
Ash Butterss (11:37.532)
Mmm.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (11:47.355)
in the works of like, maybe I need a therapist on our team too. Just because your health is all encompassing. You can't just say like, and I literally studied diet and you can't just say like, it's just food. It's not just food. It's not.
Ash Butterss (11:50.442)
Yes!
Mmm.
Ash Butterss (12:03.053)
Absolutely, I think I know for me stress is such a big contributor as to whether or not I'm holding onto weight. Like I know some people lose weight when they're stressed. I hold onto it. It's like my body goes, it's not safe. We need as much protection as possible right now. So we're gonna hold onto every single fat cell possible. And it's yeah, like I just, it will not budge for me. And then if I get into a state of calm and relaxation, yeah, it just like, you know, falls away naturally.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (12:07.944)
Hmm.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (12:13.607)
Yes.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (12:16.924)
Yes.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (12:23.792)
Me too.
Ash Butterss (12:29.761)
So interesting to witness and observe and the same with my sleep because of course, if you're stressed and you've got high cortisol, you're not sleeping well and then your body's not repairing and digesting and doing all of those important functions. So yeah, I mean, if somebody did come to you with all of the above, those things that you've explained, you know, they've got past traumas, they're experiencing bloating, their hormones seem to be out of balance. Maybe they're not in a great relationship.
Like where do you start? Because as you said, you can't tackle everything at once. That's impossible. What do you think the most important thing to start with is?
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (12:58.011)
Yeah.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (13:04.68)
I would say, mean, naturally, I feel like we start with diet, but we start with gut health. So even if you come to us and you don't have, I mean, most of our patients do have some type of bloating or constipation or acid reflux or something. But even if you don't, we definitely have people that are like, I am coming to you because I have painful periods and I have headaches. Where do we start? I'm like, gut health. Because it is like the kill two birds with one stone. It is the one stone. Because that is where every...
That's where we digest our food. That's where everything starts. And if you can't even do something so simple of digesting your food, then you're not going to get the nutrients from it. You can't get the nutrients from it, then everything else is just going to fall wayside. So it's such a great, and I feel like we're on the tip of the iceberg of learning about gut health, how it's connected to metabolism, how it's connected to anxiety, how it's connected to sex hormones. mean, it is truly connected to everything. So I like starting there in the body and then with diet.
And the nervous system is very close and or we're kind of tackling that together if they are feeling like stress or kind of being in fight or flight is there. But honestly, I sometimes don't believe people. I feel like after doing this for 10 years, there are some things I just don't believe people in. And I will say that's one thing of stress. And they're like, I'm not stressed. I'm like, honestly, I think you're so addicted to stress you don't even realize that you're stressed anymore.
Ash Butterss (14:23.388)
It becomes the normal baseline, right? If you operate out of a certain level for so long, it just becomes the norm. It was the same with me when I was drinking every day and I would be constantly hungover and that's just what my baseline was. And now at almost five years sober, I'm like, my God, this is what it's meant to feel like naturally. My baseline is so much higher now and I have so much more energy, but I was just used to existing in this perpetual state of
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (14:28.131)
Yes, yes!
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (14:45.467)
Yes.
Ash Butterss (14:52.646)
grogginess, fogginess, short-tempered, highly stressed, all that kind of stuff. And yeah, to your point, people just don't even realize the amount of stress that they're storing and holding onto within their bodies.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (14:57.66)
Yeah.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (15:05.669)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you don't know the next level, which is always the best part because you go to the next level and you're like, how did I function? How did I live?
Ash Butterss (15:12.917)
Yes, literally. So tell me, what do you think some of the most common misconceptions around gut health and hormones are in this current day?
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (15:25.043)
gosh, I would say I have like five on top of my head. The first one is that it's separate. People always wanna say like, well, they definitely give us weird looking eyes when they come to me for a painful period and they're like, why are we talking about my poop? And I'm like, I promise there's a connection there. But the belief that things are separate and you know, I kind of blame Western Med because you.
You have your cardiologist, have your neurologist, you have your gastro-neurologist, and they have separated the body. And the body just doesn't work like that. It all works together. But I would say that's number one is you can't work on hormones without working on everything else, which I guess goes into my next misconception is that a lot of people come to us and they're like, my hormones are out of whack. And they want to do Dutch testing. They want to go deep dive into their sex hormones. And I'm like,
No, even if you have low progesterone or testosterone issues or estrogen issues, they are just following the lead of other areas of the body. So if you want better hormones, we have to back up 1,000 steps. And we got to look at gut health. And we have to look at blood sugar. We have to look at environmental toxins. I mean, there's so much to look at before we even acknowledge sex hormones. And not that we're ignoring them. And even if they are giving you symptoms,
We're still trying to figure out the root cause of why our body weight may not be ovulating. And that's all these other areas. There's no special thing of, you take this herb and your progesterone goes up. No, as much as we want that to be that easy, it's just not that easy. So that's, I would say, a huge misconception with hormones. Also going into, yeah, people thinking they can supplement their issues away. I see it a lot on like, I've been loving threads and stuff.
Ash Butterss (16:50.94)
Hmm.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (17:04.551)
Instagram, but people are like, I'm having bloating. What supplement should I take? And it's like, what probiotics should I use? And I'm like, well, one, you should test because I can have two PCOS patients and they can have completely different support plans. Totally different because everyone is individual. again, and I just think it takes more than just a supplement.
Ash Butterss (17:20.86)
Mmm.
Ash Butterss (17:27.494)
What are you testing for? Like for that, with that example, Lahana, if you've got PCOS client or somebody comes in talking about like, what are you actually testing for that instance? it like the gut microbiome? Is it inflammation? And how do you test?
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (17:40.177)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah. Yes, for gut health, we're doing stool. So we're testing inflammation. We're testing digestive enzymes. We're testing bile acid metabolites. We're testing short chain fatty acids, immune function, beta-glucuronidase, which can tell us some indication of hormone detoxification, bacteria, parasites, yeast viruses. So I don't know, the whole shebang. There's a lot that we can get from stool.
Ash Butterss (18:04.262)
Yeah.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (18:05.735)
And then same with sex hormones. I mean, we look at full thyroid. We look at estrogen, progesterone, testosterone. We look at blood sugar and insulin. mean, we'd environmental toxins. So phthalates, parabens, BPA, glyphosate, pesticides, the whole shebang. So mold. I know. I feel like we test so many different things. And obviously, every patient depends on what they have going on is what we'll recommend. But yeah, that's honestly what is needed to, again, start trying to understand this route.
And the last misconception I can think of before I forget is elimination. People tend to think, OK, when I eat dairy, my stomach hurts, so I'm just going to eliminate dairy. And they think that's the last thing to do. OK, my gut health will get better. That is one very tiny step. Restriction is not, it shouldn't be long term. A lot of the times, most people can bring back a lot of foods that are problematic. I used to break out with dairy all the time. So I had to be dairy free for four years.
had to do a lot of gut work, and now I have dairy multiple times a day, every single day, and I don't break out, right? So a lot of people think that the elimination restriction is the end-all be-all, and that is the very starting point of it. That is not using food as medicine at all.
Ash Butterss (19:15.004)
Hmm.
Mmm. Yeah, it's so interesting, isn't it? I've gone down the same path of trying to eliminate certain foods and I don't know, I feel like it might work for a small period of time, but then it stops working and I don't know. I've been told that I'm allergic to all sorts of things and then, but I eat them today and I'm fine. So yeah, there's so much misinformation, like I was saying at the top of the show and I think that's why it's so important to go and see an expert, someone such as yourself, if you are having these sorts of issues. I want to know,
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (19:29.807)
Yep.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (19:39.196)
Yeah.
Ash Butterss (19:47.962)
Lahana, what is the most common concern or what is the most frequent trouble that you're assessing and diagnosing and treating within your wellness center?
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (20:03.46)
I mean, obviously, this is probably biased because we do gut and hormones or in metabolism. I would say like stubborn weight loss and bloating. I would say 95 % of people that come to see us, usually they have more to it than that. But that's almost a very common trend we see.
Ash Butterss (20:08.782)
Yeah.
Ash Butterss (20:22.257)
Yeah. And how many people do you think are walking around today undiagnosed with issues to do with their gut and their hormones? Cause I feel like it is actually probably such a small percentage of people that actually go and get treatment for this stuff.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (20:38.678)
Yeah, I would argue that everyone... No, I'm just kidding. Most people, I would argue that most people, because even when I did my test for... I've done multiple types of tests, but I've done multiple stool tests in my life. And when I was trying to figure out the root cause of acne and acne, I always start with gut.
Ash Butterss (20:44.944)
Yeah.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (20:57.956)
I was not having any gut symptoms, right? So no bloating, my poop was Bristol stool chart number four, absolute perfection. And I still had things that I needed to work on because a lot of people don't realize that before they get diagnosed, they have the symptoms. And before they have the symptoms, they're having biochemical changes that happen that...
Ash Butterss (21:08.38)
Mmm.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (21:18.936)
Don't show anything. There's no symptoms tied to them. So that's why when people are like, my gosh, I got diagnosed with cancer, or I had a heart attack, and I was so healthy. No, you weren't. You've been unhealthy for decades. You just didn't realize it. And so I think everyone, to a degree, has suddenly, everyone kind of has their own struggles, right? Like anxiety and stress. And so someone may have HPA dysfunction, which is the short term that people hate using. It's technically not a medical term, but adrenal fatigue.
But HPA dysfunction is the scientific term for it. Some people can struggle with that. So honestly, I think most people. There's always something I feel like that we can be working on and getting better. life will always be life-ing. So even things of losing a parent and going through grief, that is going to change our internal health as well. So that's why I'm saying there's always seasons where you're working on things, seasons where you're good, then seasons where you have to get back into it. And that's just life.
Ash Butterss (21:47.387)
Mm-hmm.
Ash Butterss (22:01.721)
Mm-hmm.
Ash Butterss (22:16.452)
Yeah. What happens internally when we go through something like an extreme trauma or grief?
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (22:16.51)
You
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (22:25.357)
I am actually like such on a deep journey of this, of trying to deeply understand it more. So I've been reading books like The Body Keeps the Score. There's other books that I'm... my gosh, you have it? Okay, I'm listening. I will say, I'm listening to it. And I will say, man, I feel like he could hit on the points a little bit quicker than he does. Because I'm like, this is an eight hour book. This is insane.
Ash Butterss (22:33.812)
it's one of my favorite books. Right behind me, yep. it's the best. Yeah.
Ash Butterss (22:54.251)
Yes!
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (22:54.285)
So I'm actually still in the midst of reading it. Because from what I can see, I feel like I am such a geek for understanding the physiology of how things work. I love understanding, even a chemical level, OK, if you have this deficiency, it's affecting your Krebs cycle. And the Krebs cycle is within your human cell. It's like what we learned in high school bio. And I love learning deep like that.
But I definitely am still a little surprised, even to this day, of how trauma can impact the body. And I've seen it impact the body by people not being able to lose weight. I've seen it impact the body of people just struggling with chronic GI stuff, regardless of what they're eating, they're sleeping perfect. And I feel like there's this just undenying trauma that they may even have felt like they've went through it and have done. I've seen a therapist, but they haven't really gone deep enough.
And I mean, there's statistics that show that even people with childhood trauma are at such a high risk of cardiovascular disease when they're adults. So I don't know. I feel like, do we actually understand how it works? That's why I want a deep learning of listening to all the books and trying to understand and understand what it all means.
Ash Butterss (23:49.5)
Hmm.
Ash Butterss (24:03.868)
Mmm.
Ash Butterss (24:09.038)
Yeah, it's crazy, isn't it? What you were talking about with the therapy as well, like, so my own experience around that is I went to rehab at the start of 2020 and that's when I got clean and sober and I started my deep therapy journey then and I was seeing a therapist one-on-one every week for about a year and then it was like fortnightly and then it went to monthly and now I kind of just check in with her as I need. But I had an experience last year where, you know, at four years sober, I had a panic attack.
And I realized in that moment that there was still things that my body was holding onto that no amount of talk therapy was going to process. And so I ended up going deep into the world of breath work. And I've actually just done my facilitator advanced training and I'm now, yeah, sharing that with clients because I was so passionate about what had happened to me as a result of starting to do this work because I was able to release things that I wasn't even conscious.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (24:45.698)
Wow.
Ash Butterss (25:06.224)
that I was holding on to. It's like he says the body keeps the score and the body holds onto some things that you can't talk your way through. And also talk therapy, need to understand as well as like the therapist can only give you the amount that you're willing to share. And I think sometimes people will naturally hold back or your body has created some sort of, yes, yes, you can't remember it because your body's trying to protect you and keep you safe. So.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (25:06.595)
Mmm. Yeah.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (25:21.58)
Yes.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (25:26.658)
Forgot.
Yes, yes.
Ash Butterss (25:33.562)
Yeah, looking at other modalities as well outside of therapy is so important. I'm such a big advocate for therapy, but what are the somatic healing practices? Can you implement meditation? All of those healing modalities I think are so important to have that full spectrum care when you're looking at your health overall.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (25:34.593)
Yeah.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (25:40.087)
Yeah.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (25:51.011)
Yeah. Yeah, I know I'm going to start doing, I've been doing therapy for a little bit, but we're going to start doing EMDR, which I'm really excited on doing. And I actually am so thankful that I don't have really too much of a traumatic past. mean, maybe some mean girls in high school, but nothing compared to like what some people have been through. Doesn't even come close. And so I'm working, I'm actually using it for pre-grief because my mom, I think she has a couple more years left. She has kidney disease and stuff. And so I'm using to kind of
Ash Butterss (26:00.124)
Yeah, wow.
Ash Butterss (26:10.524)
Mm.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (26:20.579)
prep for grief in a way. I'm obviously a control freak as much as I can. So I'm like, okay, this is going to be a time where I feel out of control. So what can I take control of? So let's work on my mental health beforehand. And yeah, just some other things. So I love, love, love, love that.
Ash Butterss (26:29.626)
Yeah.
Ash Butterss (26:33.422)
Yeah.
Ash Butterss (26:38.278)
You know what? think you make such a good point there. I actually have a dear friend of mine whose mom was diagnosed with a terminal illness at the end of last year and she actually just passed away this week. And both of them, the husband and wife gave up drinking at the start of the year so that they could be present and spend those last 10 months that they had with their mom and grieve in real time. Because I think that, you know,
when you're drinking through grief or, you know, there's lots of other ways that you can implement maladaptive coping mechanisms that allow you to almost bypass the grief. But like we've been saying, that stuff's going to come up one way or another. So why not process it in real time rather than it coming out sideways later on in life, perhaps at a time that you are already at capacity is generally when it's going to, you know, rear its ugly head if you don't deal with it. So, you know,
Well done, Lahana, on taking that initiative. Even if it was driven by a desire to control, I still think it's like so, so brave and just really responsible to actually lean into that.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (27:39.395)
You
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (27:47.189)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Ash Butterss (27:48.956)
Okay, so I want to know, and I'm sure our audience would love to know, what are some practical steps that women can take to start improving their gut health and their hormone balance? If, you know, maybe they're listening along and they're like, yeah, I definitely have a bit of bloating or, you know, irregular periods, or maybe they're perimenopause, menopause. What are some tips?
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (28:10.371)
Yes. And honestly, I'll start off with alcohol just because I love your journey and how much you've overcome because it is the one thing I feel like in the society that there truly is. I know that we don't always do things just for health benefits, but it is just something that we've normalized. And so I am loving. I'm obsessed with the sober movement right now. So I'm loving that people are getting curious. I'm loving the mocktails and also just the
Ash Butterss (28:31.644)
Yes.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (28:39.551)
normalizing, like not drinking. And to give you side, backside of my journey, I actually have never been drunk in my life. I've never. Yes, I don't know what that is. I maybe have had like a sip of wine, but I honestly haven't even drank. So I actually think that. That's like my fun fact.
Ash Butterss (28:50.012)
Stop it!
Ash Butterss (28:54.3)
Gosh.
Ash Butterss (29:02.47)
That is amazing. I'm like, are you a unicorn? Yeah. Wow, that's so cool.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (29:10.823)
That's like my fun fact when they're like, tell me something random about you that people would never guess. I'm like, I've never been drunk before and I'm 32.
Ash Butterss (29:19.44)
Wow, that is amazing. Like, were you just never interested? Were you scared? Like, what stopped you?
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (29:26.595)
So I am a little bit of a rebel. So if you're into Enneagram, I'm an eight. So usually when people, there's a group of people doing something, I'm usually running the opposite way. love being the unicorn. I love being the oddball out. But I think one of the things, when I really think back to it, I think my mom, she was a little bit of a mean drunk. So when she would drink, she would just turn mean, not abusive, but just mean. You can feel all the things she's ever held grudges of, girl, it's coming out.
And so I remember as a kid, yeah, I remember as a kid that I'm like, yeah, I just don't like it. I'd be so mad at her. And then so I think that was a part of it. And then like, yeah, I I love being different. never, I don't know, I never saw the purpose of it. And then I think when we're young and we just do it, we do it because we're trying to fit in.
Ash Butterss (29:56.422)
I get that, yeah.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (30:17.417)
I also, I don't know, to me fitting in, it was just disgusting. So my want to fit in was not strong enough to overcome, let's just try this and fit in with people. I'm just like, yeah, I'm just not going to fit in.
Ash Butterss (30:30.165)
Yes! I love that. That is so cool.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (30:33.411)
So but alcohol has a hold on women. It really does. And whether I think they're ready to admit it or not, it is truly such a harm to our gut microbiome and our hormones. So hands down, alcohol needs to be taken away. And usually, we might start off with, let's just take it away for a month. But then again, people start to realize how good they feel. And they're like, I'm actually good. I'm not bringing it back in. I'm like, thank gosh. So anyway, so that's one.
Ash Butterss (30:57.692)
Mmm.
Yes.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (31:03.447)
But the other one that I see a lot is under eating. So a lot of women, I think, think that people that come see someone for food, they're usually overeating or whatnot. Actually, women are under eating. And they're not even trying to under eat. It's not that they have an eating disorder or they are just trying to restrict. They tell me, I'm eating when I'm hungry. I'm not tracking, but I'm not. I'm eating when I'm hungry. I'm not when I'm not hungry. And the downfall is that their body is so used to eating so little.
Ash Butterss (31:07.76)
Mmm.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (31:33.149)
that they are following hunger cues and their hunger cues are all off. So they can't actually follow them. But when we're not eating enough, we are really restricting the food for our microbiome. I always say we're like a little Airbnb and we are hosting our bugs inside of us and we need to feed them. And when we're not, it actually causes dysbiosis, which is that imbalance of good and bad bacteria.
Ash Butterss (31:48.518)
Mm-hmm
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (31:58.61)
And then also not eating enough increases our cortisol, and then that impacts our sex hormones. And then we don't have the fuel for what we need to make thyroid hormone. I mean, it just goes down all these little pathways. But under-eating is hands down, I would say that's a pandemic, to be honest. I'm not joking when I say 95 % of women are under-eating and...
I always say a toddler needs 1,200 calories. And we have these grown women who want to be fertile and want to have these babies, but they're only eating 1,500 calories. And I'm like, that's barely more than toddler. How do you expect your body to function at its best when you're barely feeding it? So food is fuel. So that's a number one. If you want better hormones, better gut health, you have to be eating enough.
Ash Butterss (32:29.028)
Mm-hmm.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (32:42.78)
I know we talked a little bit too about reducing stress. the diet and stress are, I would say, our two biggest struggles in our patients. And I don't think stress needs to be hard, you guys. I think sometimes you're like, what's up, Link? Can we take? What can we do? Breathwork, meditation, and those are all fantastic. And I love them. But if we really get down to it, I think we just need to put more fun back into our day. I asked so many women of, what do you do for fun today or this week? And they're like,
Ash Butterss (32:43.388)
Mm.
Ash Butterss (32:50.268)
Mmm.
Ash Butterss (33:06.598)
Hmm.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (33:12.165)
I mean, one, they don't even know what fun is anymore. They're like, I actually don't even know what I like to do for fun. And I think that's the, I honestly think that's the problem. Or the days of like not doing anything.
Ash Butterss (33:14.651)
Yeah.
Ash Butterss (33:20.846)
Yeah, yeah. think another great question. Yeah, I often say to my clients as well, like, what do you do for you? Like, even if it's not super fun, but just like one thing in your day, give me one thing that you're doing that is solely for you, not for your partner, your children, your colleagues, your boss. Like, what is one thing you do for you? And I think so many people I speak to struggle to even just give me one thing. You know, so of course you're stressed. Of course you're overwhelmed.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (33:30.877)
Yeah.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (33:46.033)
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or, yeah, yes, exactly. I think there's such a need for a healthy dose of selfishness. I think we maybe were taught that everyone else comes before us. And just like on an airplane, they tell you to put your mask on first. And I think we also need to bring that into our life and say no to things. And I
Ash Butterss (33:56.284)
Mmm.
Ash Butterss (34:03.599)
Yes, amen.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (34:11.897)
My husband sometimes will be like, what do you want to do today? I'm like, actually nothing. I'm doing nothing. I'm actually bingeing a Netflix show today, and that's exactly what I'm doing. And so I will say, I do have no problem saying no and stuff like that. So that's not so much of a struggle for me. But I do feel like, again, there's so many deep rooted things there. Is it, do you feel unworthy? Do you feel that you're going to be judged if you say no? There's so many things I feel like that honestly goes back to potentially
some trauma that working through therapy is going to be the best way to understand what is this worth? What are you feeling inside that you're having trouble saying no and turning away things?
Ash Butterss (34:40.814)
Mm-hmm.
Ash Butterss (34:49.985)
Absolutely it's that need for external validation isn't it and this whole idea of being a people pleaser I'm a people pleaser because I'm so selfless and I care so much for people and you know I talk about this all the time it's it's dishonest you're not being honest when you're people pleasing because you're putting everyone else before you which then causes resentment.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (34:54.289)
Yeah.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (35:01.041)
Yeah.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (35:07.964)
done. Yeah.
Ash Butterss (35:08.784)
And then people don't understand why, you know, because you don't have to openly say, you know, I'm not happy about this situation, but people can feel your energy. People can tell when you're doing something that you don't really want to be doing. When if you had just been honest about it in the first place and put yourself first, filled your own cup up, then you can actually give to other people again from a place of patience and love and kindness. And I know it's really hard for people when they think, but, you know, I need to do all of these things for people to love me, but.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (35:17.699)
Mm-hmm.
Ash Butterss (35:37.894)
That's not the case. People that are really there for you, the people that are meant to be in your life are gonna love you no matter how you show up. Like that's what unconditional love is all about.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (35:48.304)
Yeah, yeah, I love that. I love that so much. And even to having kids, Moms are so stressed out and they have all these things, but our kids feel that. And so I feel like too, when we are taking care of ourselves, and more than just stress relief and eating, but we are teaching our kids through our actions of how to take care of themselves. And so if you are not and you are doing that and you're running yourself ragged, I always say, imagine your son or your daughter.
Ash Butterss (36:05.276)
Hmm.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (36:12.816)
doing the same thing. How would you feel for them? You'd be like, I don't want that for you. I want you to rest. You're worthy of rest. I want you to have fun. So why do we expect that we want that for other people, but we don't want that for ourselves?
Ash Butterss (36:26.692)
Exactly. So what would you recommend or suggest then for busy women out there like that are wanting to implement holistic wellness, but they're really busy and they don't know where to start.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (36:40.476)
That is one thing about me, you can never use I'm too busy. You truly can. I am like the excuse remover. And I say this because I've been running a business. I got my doctorate degree. have kids and they're 14 and 10 now. But I mean, I've been in school and actually running a business since they were toddlers. So I've been through all the different seasons. me, even at one point, me and my husband
remodel this home by ourselves, like no contractors. Our hands were remodeling and painting and doing all the crazy things. I had all that on my plate and I still had time for self-care. I still had time to eat. I still had time to cook. I still had time to sauna. So when people tell me that I don't have time, that is one thing I will not believe you on. And so one thing that we do with our patients is we make them write out their whole week from Monday through Sunday.
And what I've seen is I have them like, get up at 7, at 7.30 I'm making breakfast. At 8 o'clock I'm going for a run. 8.15 I'm doing this. I mean, we're getting down to a T. It's really annoying to do, to be completely honest with you. But the whole week, it's so helpful to see because I started seeing like, why? It's all about time management. Like, why are you doing this? Like, here you're taking your kid to practice. And you're doing something later on that night. And you tell me, you swear you can't get to bed before midnight.
But I'm seeing what if you do this when they're at practice? What if you combine this? What if you say no to this thing? Because you're doing, for example, three things for the community, different events. Maybe you're on PTA or whatnot. You need to say no to something. Three is too much. You want to be involved? That's fine. Let's cut it down to one. So again, it's going back to the saying no. And then you'll see people like, I actually can go to bed at 10. I actually can cook dinner.
Ash Butterss (38:12.412)
Hmm.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (38:27.747)
And honestly, it's so much more about schedule. And that's why we can get nitty gritty just to see, hey, look, this is when you meal prep. This is when you'll cook. Look, you have time. But I also think, we have, especially with food or exercise, it's just like, if I can get it in, I'll get it in. And everything else comes before that, when in reality, our schedule needs to be like, I'm eating breakfast, lunch, dinner. Put that in our schedule, just like a doctor's appointment.
Ash Butterss (38:47.866)
Hmm.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (38:57.563)
I'm working out four times a week, and I'm going to do it Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday at 11, so block, block, block, block. And then everything else will fit into that. Now, honestly, if there's a nine to five job, you take that into consideration. Obviously, nine to five, you've got to be working. But there still needs to be a priority to it. And that's really what it comes down to when I see people not having to have time for their health. They just don't put it as a priority.
Ash Butterss (39:09.158)
Mm.
Ash Butterss (39:19.001)
Hmm.
Ash Butterss (39:23.514)
Yeah.
I love that you shared that because I actually put something on TikTok recently and it caused a little controversy, but basically I was saying we all have the same 24 hours in a day and people did not like that, Lohana. They were like, you don't understand. She obviously doesn't have kids. And I don't, but at the same time, I think they really missed the message. What I was trying to communicate was everybody has a choice with.
how you spend those 24 hours. And I think the word priority is so, so key here. It's about what you're prioritizing and at the same time, boundaries and learning to say no. You know, if you're not getting an hour break in the middle of the day for lunch, you work a nine to five and you're not getting a break in the middle of the day, why not? You know, because maybe that's where you do your walk, like you were saying, you know, but so.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (39:54.062)
Yeah. Yeah.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (40:12.652)
Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Or two, like you can't tell me you can't take 15 minutes at all to just walk outside for 15 minutes twice a day during your shift. And maybe that is impossible. But there so many other things that we can even hack our. If you are in a cubicle, bring in a walking treadmill by like there's so many things that maybe that is a little bit more limited. I promise you, I can find something.
to make it more health friendly.
Ash Butterss (40:44.218)
Yeah, that's right. And even if it is, you know, waking up 15 minutes before the rest of the house, so you can just have some time to yourself before the chaos, you know, kids and all that stuff. I think there are always solutions and it's just really the mindset that you have towards it. And also I fully appreciate at the same time, people have seasons as well. And sometimes there are seasons where you really are at your limit, but to take some time for yourself is actually going to give you more energy, more fuel.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (40:53.678)
Yes.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (41:05.154)
Yep. Yep.
Ash Butterss (41:12.42)
as opposed to you feeling like I don't have the time to do that.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (41:13.594)
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, and for sure, I think seasons is a big part of it. Even when I had young, young kids, when obviously I couldn't change my sleep, my sleep was forever interrupted, there were things that I let go on my plate that like, OK, maybe I can't exercise at the gym the way I want to this season, and we're just going to do home workouts and do Pilates and buy some weights for the home, and I'm going to work out with my kids. So absolutely, I think there are seasons where my night-time routine is absolutely insane. Red light, sauna, all things.
Ash Butterss (41:36.286)
Mmm. Mmm.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (41:45.325)
And then there are seasons where my wine downer team is, I don't know, washing my face, brushing my teeth, and going to bed.
Ash Butterss (41:52.272)
Yeah. So true. I love that. I love that. Okay. Let's talk about emerging trends. What are you seeing at the moment in the world of nutrition and wellness that gets you excited?
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (41:56.089)
you
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (42:06.019)
feel like most trends in the world of nutrition don't get me excited because everyone's so like, they're like, what diet is new? Like, Carnivore was new probably last year. I mean, it's kind of like dying out, but everyone always wants to jump ship on all the different diets and things. I'm like, no. But I will say one thing that is coming out is I think people are realizing the importance of bio individuality. And I'm hoping more people are wanting to get more data and make
Ash Butterss (42:09.637)
Yeah!
Ash Butterss (42:22.972)
Mmm.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (42:35.641)
health decisions based on that versus, I don't know, random 500 people telling you what supplement to use for your bloating. So I think that there is a movement in that area. And I think with TikTok and Instagram, I think we have so much knowledge, which actually I think a trend is people feeling overwhelmed of like what's right and what's not because someone's saying this is great. So I'm saying this isn't great. And again, it kind of goes back to, yeah, you're right. And that may work for her. And that.
Ash Butterss (42:42.844)
Mmm.
Ash Butterss (42:55.824)
Totally.
Mm-hmm.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (43:04.312)
maybe is something they don't need to be doing, right? Like fasting, like that was a trend a while ago. And so I think people are questioning like, well, fasting may be good for her, but what about for me? So I don't know. I think the trend of like people getting more curious about their own body. But I actually there's not one that like stands out like carnivore to me is like the last one I can think of. don't know. Do you do know of any right now?
Ash Butterss (43:22.556)
Mm.
Ash Butterss (43:26.14)
Mmm.
trying to think, because you're right. think fasting was huge and now that's kind of fallen by the wayside. Yeah. I actually have...
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (43:34.424)
testing.
actually, I would say ozempic. That's the trend. I would say ozempic, actually, in wellness. A touchy little conversation. I won't get too much into that, but I will say that's it.
Ash Butterss (43:41.292)
of course, of course. Yes. Yes.
Ash Butterss (43:49.466)
No
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (43:52.46)
That's definitely a trend. And all I would say is just because someone is healthy or skinny does not mean that they are healthy on the inside. just I would the only other thing I would say on that too is making sure that you're really crossing off root causes because a lot of people feel like they and I unfortunately have a lot of patients that see local functional medicine providers and they've given it to them. And when I look
at what they're doing. I'm like, mm-mm-mm. As much as we want to say, yes, these are the people that have done everything, no, no, no. I have, out of all my patients, have one person that truly was doing everything. She did, and I think trauma was a huge thing that was still lingering, but she looked into environmental toxins. She's done gut stuff. She's done hormones. And it was a really stubborn case. So in that case, I'm like, OK, yes, that could be a tool in your toolbox.
But most people, they, have you ever checked for mold? Have you ever tested environmental toxins? Because they actually are held in our fat cells. And so if we are having trouble losing weight, could our body be potentially working for us, protecting us from environmental toxins getting into our body and moving around our body? And is our body trying to store it into fat cells to protect us? Because I think that our body is so incredible, and I think it is always working for us. So my only suggestion there would be like, have you
Ash Butterss (45:13.094)
Mm.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (45:20.092)
really looked at all. And again, a lot of people still believe work out more, eat less, when in reality, eating less is actually going to lower your metabolism and you're going to have trouble losing weight. So that's what people are saying I am doing. I'm doing all the things right in quotes when that's actually not the right thing. So anyway, that's my tangent there. There you go. That's the trend that I'm seeing and I'm not excited about it, but it's fine.
Ash Butterss (45:30.652)
Mm.
Ash Butterss (45:38.428)
Mmm.
Ash Butterss (45:43.049)
Yeah, no, 100%. 100%. I know a couple of people who have tried it out. And I was actually having this conversation with someone the other day. And I think that, you know, for some people, it's probably really appropriate. But I think what's really important that should be advised alongside Ozempic is therapy and nutrition education. Because what I'm seeing, and I know and I absolutely know this is not the case for everyone. So let me caveat that.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (46:03.339)
Yup. Yup. Yup.
Ash Butterss (46:11.354)
But some people are taking it and still eating really poorly. And that's what scares me. Because then it's just like it's this quick fix and it's not, you know, what are the condition of your insides?
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (46:18.263)
Yeah.
And I've seen it too, though. I think what's even scarier is that, again, and this is coming from functional people, so it's not conventional, is that they're prescribed it and they're given it. And then we see what they're eating because they'll start working with us. And I'm like, why was this not caught by your functional provider? Why did they not say, before we do this, in case we need it, because I'm not opposed to it for people that really truly need it, let's improve this because I have a patient in mind.
Ash Butterss (46:43.26)
Mm, mm.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (46:54.355)
And I was like, man, if we just did this, you actually don't need it. But now there is a belief of like, well, my provider, I trust my doctor. And they said I needed it. And I'm like, I'm telling you, don't. But I can't say that. So I'm just like, well, let's just work on food. And let's just do our best, right? And so I think what's scarier is, again, people's beliefs that they are doing it all when they're really actually not.
Ash Butterss (47:08.887)
of course.
Ash Butterss (47:17.789)
Exactly right. And I think that's where education is key. Okay, Lahana, I have one final question for you before we wrap up today. I'd love to know outside of nutrition, what are some wellness practices that you love that are part of your daily routine?
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (47:27.52)
Okay.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (47:38.12)
Okay, I love red light therapy. It's a favorite.
Ash Butterss (47:41.348)
Okay, tell us for those who don't know what is red light therapy? does it do?
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (47:47.414)
So I mean, it helps really get deep into cellular health and supporting the mitochondria of your cell, which is the little battery of your cell. So I think a lot of people know red light for like our skin. And so, yes, I do it on my face. And I definitely think it's like one of the reasons why I will never, no judgment to people do Botox or fillers, but I won't.
And so some people are like, what? That's wild because you don't have like, I have my eyebrows raised right now and like there's no wrinkles. Granted, I know I'm 32, but I know plenty of people my age that maybe didn't take care of their body so well and they have wrinkles, right? Because it's all about like internal health anyways. I'm like, why do red light therapy every day? And I definitely think that plays a part of it.
But you can also use it on your abdomen. You can use it for like organs and muscles and recovery. I mean, there's more than just the topical skin, but it's really going deep into cellular health. So I do love that.
Ash Butterss (48:41.754)
And do you have one of those like the stand ones or do you like because I know they do like the face masks and then there's like the body ones.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (48:50.781)
I have not the body ones are like the ones that are like the height of you. have the, it's like middle size. So it's on tabletop and it's a pretty decent size because I can definitely cover like from my boobs to the top of my head. So, and I will do that. I'll do my boobs, I'll do my thyroid. And so I'll like kind of switch, I guess, body parts to it. But definitely my face.
Ash Butterss (48:57.905)
Mm-hmm.
Ash Butterss (49:07.237)
Amazing.
Ash Butterss (49:14.384)
Yeah, amazing. So cool. I've been like toying with investing in one and I think you've convinced me. Okay, great.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (49:21.277)
do it, do it, do it. And then I love to sauna. We have a sauna. have the sunlight in. I can only do it on hair wash days. I used to do all the time. And then I just I can't like I just don't want to wash my hair that much. So I only do that on hair wash days. And then I honestly love getting outside. And one of the biggest things that has helped that because even studies show that just being in nature for 30 minutes a couple of times a week lowers cortisol is getting chickens. And so ever since I got chickens.
I have just been outside more, just hanging out with them. And grounding, so grounding while you're doing it.
Ash Butterss (49:54.562)
Yes, I love that.
so good. So, so good. Yeah, you can't underestimate getting outside. It's just, there's just something about it. Even if you don't, know, even if it's just a tiny, if you've got a balcony or something, like just getting yourself outside of the four walls at some point throughout the days makes a huge shift, I think, to your mental health for sure.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (50:07.071)
Yeah.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (50:17.681)
Yeah, think just the whole, I even actually said this on an Instagram post yesterday. I'm like, if you're not ready to slow down and not just, because I think people would be like, I just want to feel better, quick, quick, fast Amazon Prime mentality. I need to get better quicker. like, if you're not ready to actually slow down, and sometimes that is going outside and making sourdough bread and whatever, just slowing down and focusing on.
the things that our ancestors did, then you're just not ready for the real work. And that's OK, because everyone's certain parts of their journey. But in order to truly heal long term of what we talked about, even with things like Ozempic, we need to slow down. And I think that's one of the beauty of things going outside, because you slowing down and not actually smelling roses, but kind of.
Ash Butterss (51:06.364)
Hmm, maybe you are. Yeah. I love that. I love that. love that. Well, Hannah, I have enjoyed this conversation so much today. You are such a wealth of knowledge. If people want to track you down, follow you, find out more, where can they go?
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (51:09.597)
Maybe you are.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (51:22.824)
I love Instagram the most. I'm on all like TikTok, Instagram, all that. I do try to avoid TikTok, but I will occasionally go in there. But we're at NuVitru Wellness. So N-U-V-I-T-R-U Wellness, all one word. And then our website, nuvitruwellness.com is also our website. And on our services page, there's a form that you fill out. And once you fill out that form and it takes you to my calendar to schedule just a free 20 minute intro call, just so we can learn about each other and make sure that we're a good fit for what you're looking for.
Ash Butterss (51:31.068)
Mm.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (51:50.556)
I do send you an email ahead of time with a video that explains who we are, more on our offerings, building our bundles, membership, and all that. So you are very equipped to know how we work before we hop on the call. But that's how you start to work with us.
Ash Butterss (52:05.102)
Amazing. I will pop that info in the episode show notes. Is there anything else that you wanted to share or that was on your heart before we wrapped up our conversation today?
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (52:15.722)
my gosh, no, I think we hit on so many good things. this is like probably one of my favorite episodes to date that I've done.
Ash Butterss (52:18.916)
Yes!
Ash Butterss (52:23.482)
bless you, we are so lucky to have you. And again, thank you for your time and I'm so excited to stay connected. Thank you, Lahana.
Dr. Lahana Vigliano (52:31.142)
Yes, thank you.
Ash Butterss (52:33.52)
Bye.